Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.03.13 05:57:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:
edit: Didn't CCP once say that their desired prices for minerals were something along the lines of
Trit - 2 ISK/u
Pyerite - 4 ISK/u
Mex - 8 ISK/u
Isogen - 32 ISK/u
Except that CCP designers failed the concept of "opportunity cost". There's no way that you will ever see minerals hit those values in that ratio, because with Trit at 1/2 the price of Pyerite, miners will simply stop mining ores which yield mostly Tritanium in favor of mining ores which yield mostly Pyerite.
That's why, historically, all hi-sec ores have all been worth about the same exact value, within 20% or so of each other. If Veld was up at 105 ISK/m3 while Scordite was down at 90 ISK/m3 - people flock to mining Veld instead of Scordite, which drives Veld's value down and nobody bothers with Scordite. Within a few weeks, now Scordite is at 105 ISK/m3 and Veld is back down at 90 ISK/m3, so everyone flocks back to Scordite.
Prices as of a few minutes ago (roughly):
Veld 135 Scor 119 Pyro 169 Plag 154 Omb 81 Kern 151 Jasp 176 Hemo 197 Hedb 195, ABCs are 266 / 287 / 353.
Personally, I don't think 150 ISK/m3 for hi-sec ore is sustainable. Not unless CCP keeps the ban hammer rolling on mining bots and keeps them out of the game. At 150 ISK/m3, a hulk pilot is only making about 15M/hr solo. If it gets much higher then that in hi-sec, then I think more and more people will start mining. Especially when ISK/hr gets up past 20-25M range. I'll be surprised to see hi-sec ores get into the 200-250 ISK/m3 range for more then a short amount of time (2 months).
Null-sec miners, OTOH, generally won't get out of bed for less then 60-70M ISK/hr, because they can make that much running anoms or blowing up belt rats. That means that null-sec ores need to be worth at least 3.5x the value of hi-sec ores (so 500-600 ISK/m3 range) instead of only being worth 2.0-2.5x (with some like Spod being garbage).
Personally, I think the right answer would be to boost the amount of minerals in the ABCs (and Spod / Gneiss / DarkO) by about 20-30%. Which would make those ores worth more on a ISK/m3 basis when compared to the high-sec ores. Or lower the m3/unit size of some of the mid-ranged ores rather then keep them at 8-16 m3/unit. |